Friday, October 8, 2010

Immigration to Europe is not a human right

A democratic principle shared by most people is that sovereign countries have the right to determine their immigration policy. The elites are increasingly abandoning this position. Swedish bishop Eva Brunne in her opening of the parliament made statements that have been celebrated by the Swedish media:


"Yesterday evening thousands of people gathered in Stockholm and in various parts of the country to make their voices heard. To call out their disgust at that which divides people. The racism which says that you don’t have as much worth as I do; that you shouldn’t have the same rights as me; aren’t worthy of living in freedom, and that is the only reason – that we happen to born in different parts of our world – that is not worthy of a democracy like ours to differentiate between people."


Reading this carefully you will see that the text extolled by the Swedish elite contains a radical left agenda that denies the nation any sovereign rights. She is saying it is "racism" to tell people that they don't have the same right to live in Sweden as someone born to Swedish parents, because they "happen" to be born somewhere else.

But Sweden is the collective property of Swedish citizens, just as Brazil belongs to Brazilians, just as GM belongs to its shareholders and just as a condo-association belongs to the owners. While there are human rights that are inalienable, (such as the right to live your life in peace without oppression), there is no "right" to come live in Sweden because your own country is bad.

Intellectuals noticed that when Socialists allocated more and more "rights" to people, they were simultaneously taking the freedom away from the people who were assigned the responsibility to fulfill those rights. Positive rights such as the right to a job doesn't increase freedom, it reduces freedom because it imposes on others the obligation to create a job for you.

The "right" to immigrate to Sweden similarly forces Swedish people to give away their property right (to the collective assets of Sweden, such as its land), forces Swedes to finance the living standard of poor immigrants, up to Swedish levels, and most importantly forces Swedes to give away much of their own political power, because the immigrant is given the right to vote, with the vote carrying the power of political coercion.

The classic socialists wanted to give away private property that successful people had created to the poor in our own nations who had not managed to create wealth of their own. The modern, multi-culturalist socialists (including many who call themselves liberal, classically liberal or libertarian) demand that we give away the collective property that the west has created (wealthy, free societies with a high standard of living) to the poor in the rest of the world that have not managed to create good societies of their own.

This absurdity is what happens when you take concepts designed for one society (the "right" to freedom and a good life) and apply them to everyone everywhere.

This is why deep philosophers such as Friedrich von Hayek who thought carefully about the issue defined individual "rights" as relevant within a society, not across societies. Within a society rights, even positive rights, can be absolute (say the right not to starve), but between societies, rights are reciprocal, and we decide what right we grant others. As free people we simply do not have an obligation to, say, invade and pacify Somalia in order provide Somalians with the right to live in peace.

These "rights" that Eva Brunne so generously bestowed on the entire world dramatically reduced the rights and freedoms of Sweden.

As a side note, the example of Somalia above is not merely made in jest. George Bush's argument, for instance, was simple: If people in another country lack "freedom", then they have the right to expect that the west will fix that problem for them, either through migration or invasion.

12 comments:

  1. For a libertarian defense of immigration, I strongly recommend this interview with Bryan Caplan, from George Mason university.

    http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2010/10/caplan_on_immig.html

    I didn't understand your grudge with immigration, and I think it is very contradictory this attitude of praising free markets on almost everything -- except of labour.

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  2. There is no "free" market for labor, because of welfare subsidies. Since these cost billions, (in the Swedish example 50% of the immigrants live of the state) case ignoring them makes no sense.

    I care about immigration because of the magnitude of the long term impact dwarfs everything else. Immigration is permanent, unlike tax policy, stimulus, even wars. And I believe that nations outcomes are to some extent due to the direct effect of culture (Swedes and Americans of Swedish ancestry work more than the Spanish) and to an extremely large extent due to the indirect effect of culture on policy. Simply UK-US-Australia-Canada with Spain-Mexico-Venezuela-Argentina.

    There are plenty of things for which the market doesn't work, and where I do not advocate a market. Doctrinate libertarianism that cannot be defended empirically and commonsensically is not the Chicago tradition.

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    Simply *contrast* UK-US-Australia-Canada with Spain-Mexico-Venezuela-Argentina.

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  4. "There are plenty of things for which the market doesn't work, and where I do not advocate a market. Doctrinate libertarianism that cannot be defended empirically and commonsensically is not the Chicago tradition."

    You seem to be a doctrinaire collectivist, however (I don't say socialist, though you're actually extremely close): assuming there is a sovereign state that can do what it wants and whose rights are inviolable is not any less doctrinaire than assuming individuals to be sovereign and to have inviolable rights. On the other hand, it is less arbitrary, since all actions are ultimately taken by individuals, not vague collectives like "societies".

    This is the most telling passage:

    "But Sweden is the collective property of Swedish citizens, just as Brazil belongs to Brazilians, just as GM belongs to its shareholders and just as a condo-association which decides who get to live there belongs to the owners."

    Sweden should be the private property of individual people, who may or may not be Swedes. If a non-Swede wants to buy land from a Swede, other people should have no say in the matter.

    You're right that actual immigration involves non-libertarian things: people being given subsidies, state housing, votes in elections that can be used to aggress against others, etc. But this isn't an argument against immigration, it's an argument against subsidies, state housing, and democracies without constitutional protections of rights.

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  5. "You're right that actual immigration involves non-libertarian things: people being given subsidies, state housing, votes in elections that can be used to aggress against others, etc. But this isn't an argument against immigration, it's an argument against subsidies, state housing, and democracies without constitutional protections of rights."

    Fine, here is the deal: Eliminate the right to vote for immigrants (and their children), all subsidies, economic rights and transfer systems, all anti-discrimination legislation, etc. and then we can talk.

    Of course, you must also create innovative systems to handle widely different non-government externalities created by immigration, such as increased crime and cultural shifts.

    When you´ve fixed those things in the real world (where current immigration policy is taking place), not in a theoretical utopia, then we can talk.

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  6. "Fine, here is the deal: Eliminate the right to vote for immigrants (and their children), all subsidies, economic rights and transfer systems, all anti-discrimination legislation, etc. and then we can talk."

    Agreed.

    In fact, I would like to go further. My 'second class citizen' group would receive no services (even police, fire, etc.) and pay no tax. It also would not be subject to any laws except against bodily harm, property damage, etc. I would then immediately renounce my own (completely native) British citizenship.

    "Of course, you must also create innovative systems to handle widely different non-government externalities created by immigration, such as increased crime and cultural shifts."

    Increased crime doesn't need innovative systems to handle externalities: property damage and bodily harm are torts.

    Cultural shifts aren't externalities, and if they are, you have just as much a case against natives. I'm imagining a world in which slavery never ended in the USA because anyone who opposed it was bankrupted by law suits for shifting the national culture.

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  7. "Agreed.

    In fact, I would like to go further. My 'second class citizen' group would receive no services (even police, fire, etc.) and pay no tax."

    Just remember to get all that stuff implemented *before* you begin the influx of (anti-libertarian) poor new potential voters. If you get the order mixed up, I´d say the chance of the libertarian agenda ever geting implemented drops by an order of magnitude or two.

    "Increased crime doesn't need innovative systems to handle externalities: property damage and bodily harm are torts."

    Partially. Perfect tort-based compensation isn´t possible, partially due to the inperfections of any justice system, partially due to the nature of some crime, and partially due to many criminals just being too poor to pay the tort, even with forced prison labour, etc.

    Plus, increased fear and cost of crime prevention can´t be handled by any torts I can think of. I would rather just take a saer lower-immigration society instead of creating the most complext tort system ever made. Seems like a simpler, more elegant solution.

    "Cultural shifts aren't externalities"

    Yes they are, they impose non-priced costs on people. Of course, the nature of the shift matters - a shift to a much less trusting society is (for instance) very, very costly. Also, a shift to a more socialist-leaning electorate can be extremely costly, far more so than any botced tax reform, and so on.

    That it is absurd for individuals to seek compensation from indivduals for culture shifts, or that we should´t try to price all externalities, doesn´t make them any less potentially costly.

    As for slavery, of course the push for abolishing it ended up very costly indeed for a lot of people in the old south. It´s just that I have zero sympathy for their cause, unlike, say, for those who want merely to keep living in a high-trust or Swedish-culture society.

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  8. It's probably just me, but this discussion seems awfully broad-stroked. Collectivist vs Individualist? Come on. There's more than a single legitimate claim on virtually any resource. "I should be able to do what I want with my land" can always be countered with "What you do with your land affects me."

    Rights aren't 'native', nor are they moral. They are agreements that people have made because it's efficient to do so. The real question here is about specific policies and their specific effects.

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  9. "She is saying it is "racism" to tell people that they don't have the same right to live in Sweden as someone born to Swedish parents, because they "happen" to be born somewhere else."

    Maybe she should have a discussion with Thomas Sowell on the topic of "racism". While being enlightened she might as well take the time to discuss the topic of "fair" with Sowell.

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  10. "Partially. Perfect tort-based compensation isn´t possible, partially due to the inperfections of any justice system, partially due to the nature of some crime, and partially due to many criminals just being too poor to pay the tort, even with forced prison labour, etc.

    Plus, increased fear and cost of crime prevention can´t be handled by any torts I can think of. I would rather just take a saer lower-immigration society instead of creating the most complext tort system ever made. Seems like a simpler, more elegant solution."

    Of course perfect tort system is impossible. So is a perfect statist system. Moreover, a system that fines people for presumed crimes based on their race or birthplace is immoral. Only proven harms deserve compensation.

    "Yes they are, they impose non-priced costs on people. Of course, the nature of the shift matters - a shift to a much less trusting society is (for instance) very, very costly."

    I was trying to make a different point with my example - that "cultural shifts" are the ideas people have in their own head. Other people in society don't own my thoughts, and have no right to compensation if I think things they don't like.

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  11. ***There is no "free" market for labor, because of welfare subsidies. Since these cost billions, (in the Swedish example 50% of the immigrants live of the state) case ignoring them makes no sense. ***

    This article makes that point in the context of California & references Milton Friedman who made the same observation.

    "Milton Friedman once said that unrestrained immigration and the welfare state do not mix. Must we wait until California catches up with Mexico to realize how right he was?"

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112167023

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  12. just linked this article on my facebook account. it’s a very interesting article for all.

    Immigration to Australia

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